Aging and Disability Network of Saratoga County Meeting Minutes
7/10/18
Present: Patrick
Harrington (Saratoga County Office for the Aging), Shelli Crogan (Interim
Healthcare), Kim Anderson Swire (Shenendehowa Neighbors Connecting), Mary
Moller (Center for Excellence of Alzheimer’s Disease Albany Med), Kasey Manning
(SAIL),Denise DiNoto (Consumer Directed Choices), Blaise Bryant (Consumer
Directed Choices), Caitlin St. George (The Eddy), Donna Rudzinski (Shenendehowa
Village), Kimberly Arnold (Eddy Alzheimer’s Services), Jane Kerr Sussman
(Saratoga Senior Center), Eric Weber (Saratoga Dept. of Social Services- Adult
Protective), Ben Nichols (Saratoga County OFA), Denise Yannaci (Saratoga County
OFA), Jess Flynn (Eddy Daybreak Adult Day Services), Amy Ponessa (Saratoga
Hospital), Mary Rickard (Saratoga OFA), Kym Hance (Herzog Law).
Introductions and
Announcements – There will be NO
August Meeting. The next Aging and Disability Network meeting will be held on
Tuesday September 11th from 2-330pm at the Malta Community Center. Doris Green, Director of NYS Caregiving and Respite
Coalition will speak about the agency.
Today’s Speaker and Topic: Sarah Szewczyk, Director of
Marketing, NYSARC Trust Services: “Using a Pooled Trust for Medicaid
Eligibility.”
Who is ARC New York?
·
Serving people with
developmental disabilities in NYS since 1949
·
45 years’ experience
administering supplemental needs trusts
·
Extensive knowledge of
disability benefits and eligibility protection
·
Leader in developing
and administering pooled SNTs
·
NY’s original provider
of Medicaid income spend-down trusts
·
Trust administration
for Eddy Community Trust
·
Trust has helped more
than 19,000 people protect benefits
What is a Pooled Supplemental Needs Trust (SNT)?
A pooled trust is an irrevocable
SNT that under Federal and NYS law allows people with disabilities and
disabling chronic health conditions to protect excess funds in order to become
financially eligible for government benefits like Community Medicaid and/or
SSI.
Funds in a trust can be used to
provide for quality of life purchases that a person’s benefits do NOT provide.
1st Party Pooled Trust Overview:
·
Trustee must be a
non-profit organization
·
In NYS, a financial
institution must act as co-Trustee
·
Funds are pooled for
investment purposes
·
Activity is tracked
individually in sub-trust accounts
·
Trust is irrevocable
and account terminates upon death of beneficiary
·
Under Federal statute,
any funds not retained by the trust must go to the state that provided Medicaid
services.
Benefits of a Pooled Trust:
·
Qualify and maintain
eligibility for Medicaid to get community health benefits and long- term
services
·
Protect funds for
supplemental needs that enhance quality of life
·
Get long term care
without a complete loss of resources
·
People can get care in
the community and afford to live independently
·
Helps people
transition home following short-term rehab
·
Benefits allow people
to participate in adult day health and home care services
Using a Pooled Trust for Income Spend -Down:
“Income received by an individual
and placed into a pooled SNT in the same month will be disregarded for Medicaid
eligibility purposes.”
2018 NY Medicaid Income Limits
·
Individual-
$842/month(+20)
·
Couple -
$1233/month(+20)
2018 NY Medicaid Resource Limits
·
Ind -$15,150
·
Couple- $22,200
Examples of Monthly Income –
Social Security, Pension, IRA Distribution, Disabled Adult Child or Survivor’s
Benefits
Using a Pooled Trust for Excess Resources (Assets):
For someone on SSI receiving as
little as $2000 could jeopardize that person’s eligibility for benefits
2018 NY SSI Resource Limits
·
Individual-
$2000/month
·
Couple- $3,000/month
2018 NY Medicaid Resource Limits
·
Ind - $15,150
·
Couple- $22,200
Common Resource Examples: Direct
Inheritance, Retroactive Social Security benefit, Lump sum or structured
settlement, other monetary gifts
Case Study:
·
Maria is 80 years old
and lives independently in her home
·
She has dementia and
needs help with activities of daily living
·
Her monthly income
from her pension and social security is $500 over the limit to qualify for
Community Medicaid but she can’t afford to private pay for the care she needs
·
If she gives her
excess income to Medicaid each month she will struggle to afford her living
expenses to stay in her home
How it Works?
1.
Transfer/protect
resources through planning solutions
2.
Obtain determination of disability from DOH
3.
Apply for Medicaid
4.
Apply for a pooled trust
5.
Deposit monthly surplus income (NAMI) into
pooled trust
6.
Medicaid covers the amount of care per
assessed need
7.
Funds in the pooled
trust will pay for living and other expenses
*The order of these steps may vary
Obtain Determination of Disability:
·
County DSS will ask
for proof of disability to qualify for benefits
·
Show proof with an
award letter for wither SSDI or SSI benefits
·
If the beneficiary
does not receive these benefits or has not otherwise been deemed disabled, you
will need to complete some forms and contact DSS for a disability determination
Establishing a
Pooled Trust:
·
NYSARC Community
Trusts already established and approved by Social Security Administration.
·
Simply submit
completed Joinder Agreement, Social Security documentation and initial funding
·
Open with as little as
$300 (includes $200 one-time enrollment fee
·
Joinder Agreement
creates sub-trust account and may be signed by individual, POA, Guardian,
Parent/Grandparent
Account Approval:
Upon approval of Joinder Agreement and receipt of funds:
·
Sub-trust account
established
·
Executed documents
must be submitted by the beneficiary to local DSS office and/or provider(s)
·
Trust sends “Welcome
Binder” and follows up with introductory phone call
·
Beneficiary and/or
authorized contact can submit disbursement requests for distributions
Trust
Administration:
·
All disbursements must
be for sole benefit of the trust Beneficiary
·
Disbursements are paid
directly to third parties (individuals or a licensed business)
·
Disbursements must be
substantiated by supporting documentation
·
Electronic deposits
and automated payments can automate the process
·
Account terminates
upon passing of the trust beneficiary
·
No disbursements can
be made after death in accordance with federal SSA POMS policy
Eligible
Disbursements (non SSI):
·
Rent/Mortgage/Property
Tax
·
Condo Maintenance
·
Home/Renters Insurance
·
Repairs/maintenance
·
Utility bills
·
Furniture
·
Groceries for
beneficiary
·
Transportation/Vehicle
expenses (owned by Beneficiary)
·
Irrevocable pre-need
funeral plan
·
Uncovered Medical
Expenses /OTC Items
·
Entertainment/Recreation
·
Other personal needs
Prohibited
Disbursements:
·
Cash to beneficiary or
bank accounts
·
Items for others (sole
benefits)
·
Capital improvements
to property not owned by beneficiary
·
Leases between spouses
·
Leases with POA when
POA signs as landlord and tenant
·
Both rent and
mortgage/property taxes, etc.
·
Items covered by
government benefits
·
Alcohol, tobacco,
firearms, illegal activity, bail, restitution
·
Disbursements after
death of Beneficiary
Reporting and
Tracking Trust Activity:
·
Account statements
sent monthly- copies to family and services providers as requested
·
Track trust activity
24/7 with Online Portal or automated phone line
·
Verification of
deposits automated to designated agencies upon request
·
Full detailed activity
history when requested by Medicaid/DSS
·
Medicaid may require
disbursement documentation, including receipts, invoices, etc.
·
Trustee/Administrator
handles Trust tax reporting
What happens if a
Beneficiary enters a Nursing Home?
·
If simply a Rehab period:
·
Beneficiary will give
monthly surplus to NH during rehab period
·
Deposits to Trust
restart after return home
·
If permanent placement:
·
Stop deposits and use
balance until funds depleted
·
Surplus income now
goes to Medicaid to cover cost of NH
What happens once
the Beneficiary passes?
·
Sub-trust accounts
terminate upon the death of the Beneficiary
·
In accordance with
Federal and State statutes, no disbursements may be made after passing
·
Any remaining funds
must be paid to the State that provided Medicaid services or retained by the
trust to further the purpose of the trust
How NYSARC uses
retained funds:
·
Retained funds are
used to support unfunded guardianship and recreational programs for people with
disabilities at The ARC New York chapters across NYS
·
Guardianship services
support hundreds of people with intellectual and developmental disabilities who
would otherwise have no legal guardian or advocate
If you have additional questions about this information
please don’t hesitate to contact us:
Professional line: (518) 860-1258 (NOTE: different number
than what we handed out at meeting)
www.nysarctrustservices.org

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